Thursday 7 March 2013

Kanwar Wars - Episode III : Revenge of the Fans

WARNING : This blog entry contains strong language in the screenshot images

This blog is purely opinion based on the factual evidence presented online by Kanwar's own behaviour.


In our previous blog, we highlighted some of the additional stuff that Jaimie Kanwar, owner/editor of Liverpool-Kop website had been up to.


That additional stuff included who he followed from his own personal twitter account in 2010 including The S*n Newspaper !!


As any right minded LFC fan would know - that is one of the worst things LFC fans could possibly do.Sadly some of his misdemeanours are a little worse than we had revealed to date.


Here's some more background information including what some other fans think of him and his website together with additional evidence.

Collaborating with Manchester United Websites and Merchandising



In an earlier blog, we made brief reference to his collaboration with Manchester United Fan Websites but did not provide the links etc.


We feel that it is only fair that LFC fans know which sites to look at for the evidence.


So here goes :

From 2009

This interview was given just AFTER the 4-1 thrashing of MUFC at Old Trafford. Please bear that in mind when reading it and the following snippets.




Snippets from that interview :


So LFC have just trashed MUFC and the first thing in the interview is Kanwar basically slagging off the club.
So 


Insulting Stevie G - really Kanwar ? Perhaps the greatest player to grace an LFC shirt since the last time we won the (what is now) Premier League title ? And you call yourself a fan ?


Note the sucking up to Ferguson .. that's going to crop up again. And also note the further insult to Gerrard.

 And even more insults to Gerrard : http://therepublikofmancunia.com/view-from-the-enemy-on-sunday-gerrards-brawl-and-liverpools-year/

From 2010

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stats-benitez-vs-ferguson-spending/

That one is just FULL of inaccuracies and as one commenter at the bottom says : Kanwar doesn't know how to read accounts. Far, far too selective in the comparisons.

But then again he was given ammunition to MUFC website.


From 2012


A couple of snippets from that interview.

We understand that it is just Kanwar's opinion but would you want to call Ferguson a genius as a Liverpool fan ? And especially to be seen to be "sucking up to" the MUFC fans ?


That snippet is especially galling to us given Kanwar's actions over the HJC advertising revenue donation and also the £500 owed from his online bet with another fan.

The interview was given the week before the match v Manchester United at Anfield in September 2012. Unfortunately during the Hillsborough tribute Manchester United fans disgraced themselves, after the match too, with gross chanting. Did their fans "slap down any idiots" ... No.

And another from September 2012 ...

 http://thepeoplesperson.com/manchester-united-vs-liverpool-view-from-the-enemy/
But you mentioned merchandising too ...

 This is from @LFCKopChat's blog : 


http://lfckopchat.wordpress.com/2012/11/07/sick-t-shirts-promoted-by-lfc-website/

 We think the detail there speaks volumes.


Displaying pictures for marketing TShirtsUnited.com is just wrong on Kanwar's Liverpool-Kop site. Just plain WRONG.

Image Rights


In our other blog which deals with generalized comment and Hillsborough educational material we have an article dealing with Image Rights and Abusive Users. 

That article was written on the back of abusive tweets from Manchester United fans and also a response from MUFC themselves.

It makes it clear that football club logos etc are copyrighted images and as such fall under a club's Brand Protection remit.

So what's this to do with Kanwar.

Ah - it's the source of another misdemeanour of his.

This is his profile on BrandYourself.com



Pay particular attention to the use of the club emblem and the famous "This is Anfield" sign.

We must ask the question does Kanwar have explicit permission from LFC to use that logo etc ?

If not and put that in conjunction with his abusive comments online then he is  DIRECTLY jeopardizing the reputation of Liverpool Football Club.

So what do other LFC fans make of him



Fortunately, from what we've seen there is not much in the way of respect for his actions on the net.



Here are some examples of other fan opinion :


And these links are before we even start to look at forum threads across the numerous LFC fan forums.

 Oh go on ... we'll add some for ya ...

 http://forums.liverpoolfc.com/threads/140433-13-reasons-Liverpool-should-sell-Mascherano-(Kanwar-again)

http://scouse.forum-gratuiti.com/t598-jamie-kanwar

 On that last one Kanwar threatened legal action ... again.

As you can see 18 months on the article is still there.

Has he stopped abusing ?


Our response ... has hell frozen over ?

For those who don't understand : the answer is NO he hasn't.

But he really should be careful about the information trail he leaves lying around on the internet ...


We won't directly reveal it's content but if you look closely on the right hand side of the page on the link you may get some interesting information. 

And here are some tweets that seem to like to hang around on the internet from his old liverpool_kop twitter account


We like to try and leave a little bit of hypocrisy from Kanwar to last ... and for this article we'd like to draw attention to his poetry collection ....



Given the evidence we've presented in previous blog entries and this one we would suggest the vacuum and decaying minds images mean something completely different now.

And for real fun :-


The irony running throughout that one is really tangible and when we first read it couldn't stop laughing at it's hypocrisy.

Is there anything we can do to stop him online ?


Yes there is.

1) Contact Local Police

 If you have been DIRECTLY abused by Kanwar via Twitter, Facebook or even on his website or elsewhere.... 

If you have the evidence (screenshots etc), please ring 101 (in the UK) and contact your local police. We've covered the legislation that applies in previous blogs.

2) Contact NewsNow

Why NewsNow ?

His website liverpool-kop relies on external websites to provide "feeds" to his articles for site traffic.

Around 40% of this web traffic comes from links published on NewsNow.

We believe that because of the amount of plagiarism etc on liverpool-kop that the amount of original material is negligible.

He actively promotes "as on NewsNow" on his website front page.

We believe that NewsNow should only be providing links to sites that actually provide news not just rip-it-off and present it mostly verbatim.

If you wish to complain to NewsNow here's the link


3) Report specific abuse to the network content provider

If you've been directly abused or threatened then the law in the UK provides protection for you. 

Companies such as Twitter etc have a DUTY not just under law but also under their own Terms and Conditions to protect people from abuse and especially from threatening behaviour.

Use the likes of the Twitter Help Centre to report specific instances of abuse/threats.

4) Put the word out - get people to read these blog articles, the links in this and other articles.

Make life uncomfortable for him.

5) Get your followers, friends etc to STOP using liverpool-kop

Without his network traffic, he has no advertising revenue. 

Simple.


Why do we want you to do this ?


We firmly believe Kanwar is NOT REALLY A LIVERPOOL FAN. 

There are numerous pieces of evidence available (even more than we've referenced in these blog articles) that he is anti-LFC in general. Go and do a Google search (or other search engine) and it becomes pretty obvious. 

He seems to hate Suarez, Rafa Benitez yet sided with Hicks & Gillet and Roy Hodgson - he was happy when Dalglish was sacked.

He was very happy with team performances when LFC were in a bad patch around the start of the season.

All the clues are there. He just won't admit it. 

We firmly believe he is a Manchester United fan gaining money off gullible LFC fans.

And what does he do with that money ?

This is off his Facebook page - Kanwar at the Grand Canyon, Arizona.


Expensive trip that. Wonder how much of it was paid for by advertising revenue and how much of that should have gone to HJC as he promised ?


We firmly believe he is a schizophrenic who believes his own lies. 

We firmly believe that he is now a danger to himself and others.

We firmly believe that he needs professional help. His hypocrisy and abuse is potentially at a dangerous level where someone is likely to get hurt either emotionally or physically judging by the threats he dishes out on his current twitter alias @tommy_devito77.

We firmly believe that we all owe it as human beings to get him that help - even if we don't like what he does.

We firmly believe however that as a traitor to Liverpool FC that he deserves to Walk Alone.

Make it happen - do REAL LFC fans a favour - Kanwar : go and plague the club you really support : MUFC.

To everyone else ... 

JFT96

YNWA



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Wednesday 6 March 2013

Kanwar Wars .. Episode II : Attack of the Trolls - it's ok though : we have a lightsaber for that (Updated)

WARNING : This blog entry contains strong language in the screenshot images

 This blog is purely opinion based on the factual evidence presented online by Kanwar's own behaviour. 


In our previous blog on Rogues Gallery, we outted some of the abuse and misdemeanours of Jaimie Kanwar, owner and editor of liverpool-kop.com

 That blog entry is available here

 We suggest if you are new to this whole issue that you start with reading that blog first. It'll make the content in this one have more sense ! :)

 So what has happened since our last blog ?

 Plenty has happened, Man United got knocked out of the Champions League, they all blamed the referee and in the case of dealing with Kanwar :  not a lot has changed sadly. 

 Kanwar is still abusing people on his current twitter timeline of @tommy_devito77.

 He continues to claim to be a victim yet all he does on that timeline is hurl abuse, false accusations and general bile.

 The veil slips from time to time still too - when he "forgets" that he's meant to be writing as "a friend". That'll probably turn out to be the same invisible friend that "stole" his phone ... or he was always "drunk" when posting ... you know : the standard bullshit from abusive people when they've been found out.

 So why are we writing another blog then ?

 Ah ... good question ... 

 Well we thought we'd keep you all up to date with some additional information we've uncovered and some of his latest hypocritical tirades. 

 It seems rude of us not to present further evidence as it becomes available. Some of this information has already appeared on our Twitter timeline @TheHonourables 

 1) His website : liverpool-kop.com 

 It's a google hosted site (blogger) like ours. That's interesting for future reference as we are fully aware (coz we are subject to the same ones) of the Terms and Conditions of membership.

 However, given that we know that it's hosted by Google : his claims that his website was hacked are frankly just stupid. That would require a hack of Google's servers and in our opinion if that had happened there would already be major repercussions. 

 Also, he claims that an expert IT firm has verified this claim - err that would have to happen with the co-operation of Google and indeed would probably require a US court order. 

 Indeed, if Google's servers had been hacked then other blog sites would have been vulnerable and a notice would have been put out by Google to warn bloggers. That did not happen.

 Therefore, we strongly believe his claims to be yet more lies.

 2) His own Terms and Conditions

 These are his rules on posting comments on his website.

So his policy for posting on his website is non-abusive - fair enough - but it's very hypocritical of him then to act abusively towards people who DARE to disagree with him elsewhere on the internet.

Especially the clause that starts with "Personal Abuse" in the picture above.

3) What is his comment policy that he refers to in the picture above ?

Well we wouldn't want you to give his site the traffic so we've done the hard work ...


We'll summarize : it's all hypocrisy compared to his own behaviour online and frankly if his conduct wasn't actually illegal on his Twitter Timeline as @tommy_devito77  it would be laughable. 

It's apparently ok for him to lay the law down about other people's behaviour but for himself ? It doesn't matter one jot apparently.

However the law doesn't work like that, Kanwar. 

4) What about Privacy ?

Ah ... now here's a really interesting one. 

In our previous blog on this we revealed that he had faked an email allegedly sent to his editorial email address at his website.

In that email he gave out the email address of the alleged perpetrator.

Now compare that action with his own privacy policy on his website. This is the relevant clause about email addresses etc.


So hang on ... an email was sent to his editorial email address yet it was ok for him to release it's FULL content including the sender's email address ? 

Presumably he did that without the permission of the alleged sender ... highly likely.

Err ever heard of the Data Protection Act, Kanwar ?

He'll no doubt cite this additional clause on his Privacy Policy ... 


However there is a MASSIVE difference between releasing information to others as a result of a legal request to just doing it out of spite or as part of a disagreement online. 

To do so breaches the Data Protection Act in the UK.

Oh dear, Jaimie ... another offence to add to the growing list.

5) Is he spokesman for LFC ?

Seems to think so - and he thinks he's acting "on behalf of all reasonable Liverpool FC fans". Errr no thanks.

This is what he posted up on his website regarding the twitter idiots who abused referee Mark Halsey following the Manchester United match at Anfield earlier this season.


We hear you ask ... "so what's so wrong with that ?"

Well in terms of content taken on it's own it's fine - however when you put that into the context of his own recent behaviour it's quite disturbing.

Regarding Twitter use : "it is a snivelling cesspit of faceless cyber bullies, stalkers, nutcases and gutless cowards"

Now compare that wording to this selection of some of his abusive comments in his twitter timeline :


More proof it's the same person tweeting as who posted that entry from 2012 on his site and note especially that his own name is given on that blog entry.

Ooops Jaimie.

Add into that the last paragraph of his "letter" to Halsey "only in a twisted universe is that an excuse for this kind of abuse"

*Spits drink out whilst laughing with irony*


6) Is those his only mistakes recently ? 

Nah - don't be daft not by a long, long way...

As this writer was typing out this blog @tommy_devito77 posted this :-


Quite simply, so many bits of legislation broken in those few tweets it's hard to know where to start.

  • (a) Incitement
  • (b) Direct threats of violence
  • (c) Wishing someone dead 
  • (d) Gross abuse
  • (e) Malicious Communications 

and those are just off the top of our head ...

now compare those to this :


Hypocritical and potentially psychopathic behaviour.

Does it stop there ? Does it hell ...

Remember that email we referred to ...

One email address had a yahoo.com address on it, the other a ymail.com address. 

Yes, they are the same parent company who runs the email domains BUT they are succinctly different and someone with any IT knowledge should recognize that. 

Not Kanwar though ...



Is this the limit of his stupidity ? 

Oh come on, now your just having a laugh ...

As we revealed in the last blog update, the date on the faked email he claims had threats in it was supposedly sent on the 23rd November 2011 yet Kanwar had somehow "anticipated" it's content on his old Twitter account (in the name of his website) the day BEFORE. 

How could he possibly have known about the content of an email from someone else the day before it was sent ? Mystic Kanwar ?

Now to us mere plebs that is a significant issue, because it provides clear further evidence about the faking of the email. 

But to Kanwar ...


The delusion that dates are irrelevant is quite extraordinary. It also demonstrates that he's lied that much now that he actually believes his own lies.

In fact, date and time stamps on tweets, emails etc are VERY important in the context of evidence because they provide a clear timeline of who said what when.

7) Attempting to bully The Honourables

This speaks for itself :


and our response ?


WE WILL NOT BE BULLIED


8) More threats 

Yeah ... we promised you some of those - it may have been boring up till now but here you go a selection of his abuse, threats and false accusations ... enjoy :-





This set was particularly nasty because it was sent to a female follower of The Honourables who had just quoted one of our tweets 


BRACE YOURSELVES

Please put your drinks down if you have one ... don't want to spoil the wallpaper ... 

We've saved the best bit of hypocrisy in the last few days for last ...


If you've stopped laughing from the irony and hypocrisy of that tweet : you can pick up your drink again now ... if not take a pause for breath.

...... Ready ?

A little reminder for Kanwar on what the Malicious Communications Act 1988 actually says :



So have a look at the screenshots we've provided here and in the previous blog and the number of offences that Kanwar (in the guise of @tommy_devito77 - who was PROVEN to be Kanwar in previous blog) has committed just under that one act alone should add up to a very long prison sentence.

That's also before we add in the additional pieces of legislation which could be applied ...



and let's not forget the most recent one ... Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 which includes clauses about stalking and harassment (including cyber) ...






Vigilante too ? 

You can't talk the law into your own hands Kanwar. This is the UK in the 21st century not some distant lawless place in the dark ages.



Sadly Kanwar thinks he's untouchable ...

Err I think you'll find that the cops can act. 

They WILL act. 

Defamation is a civil issue but abuse and threats are completely different - they are CRIMINAL issues. 

In any case, the fake email that he claims was sent to him is not Defamation but a threat. That REQUIRES police intervention not civil action. 

But we all know why he won't go to the police - because it's fake and the reason he's hurling abuse is because he's been discovered and it's his only line of defence.

The evidence is stacking up, Kanwar, still care to test us in court ?


UPDATE

A little extra bite of evidence regarding how much of an LFC fan Kanwar REALLY is.

In 2010, Kanwar had his own twitter account in his own name ... these are the accounts he followed : 


We think the at least TWO of the names in that list should speak volumes about where his loyalties really lie. 

END UPDATE


Latest Conclusions


Sadly, we believe that his abusive behaviour will only stop once the Police are involved. 

Yes we fully understand that some LFC fans would consider that to be grassing, but sadly someone is going to probably end up being either emotionally or worse physically hurt by his continued behaviour.

We would strongly urge ANYONE on the receiving end of his abuse to log a complaint with their local police force via telephone number 101, and if necessary make a formal statement. 

Keep the evidence too of the abuse, use screenshot software to do so, print out copies if necessary. Make notes of the details of the individual tweet references (each tweet is allocated a unique identifier).

The more people that do the more likely the various police forces are going to co-operate and clamp down on him hard.



In addition to this, we now believe that Kanwar has some serious mental issues. 

He needs proper professional help. 

That may only come, as he seems to be in constant denial, when he is arrested or sectioned under the Mental Health Act. To be sectioned however that will require him to be investigated by the police.

We also urge anyone who has received a threat from Kanwar or an abusive message to use the Twitter Help Centre to report his abuse. Again the more that do, the more likely there will be positive action.

And lastly, please STOP using his website liverpool-kop.com .. cut off his advertising revenue. He deserves to Walk Alone.

To the rest of you ...

YNWA

JFT96






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